ISU SG - Melayu @ Me---layu

[shaz]

Bangga dgn bangsa me-layu? hmm... sad to say yg mundur, miskin2 all over indon, thailand, jd pelacur, perampok tu sume adalah bangsa melayu. bangsa rojak yg tak punya keasliannya tersendiri... i am more proud to b a muslim though.

I thought Indon dan Thailand tu lain group, melayu jugak ke? But historically, jawa dan melayu memang lain bangsa. They derived from 2 different places and different roots.

I know Filipinos are malays (most of them have "malay" written down in their birth cert under race column), tapi orang Filipino tak pernah nak mengaku diri dorang melayu. They are proud to be known as catholics with spanish history, macam Norm is proud to be known as muslim  ;D.

[dw_gal]

I know Filipinos are malays (most of them have "malay" written down in their birth cert under race column), tapi orang Filipino tak pernah nak mengaku diri dorang melayu. They are proud to be known as catholics with spanish history, macam Norm is proud to be known as muslim  ;D.

yelah shaz...muka dorang cam melayu....i masih lagi time my first contact dgn all philiphine guy time dorang datang sini utk main sepaktakraw tournament (asian sec school) and i was a nurse (st john lah)...and tengok muka dorang betul2 cam melayu...ingatkan team dari msia or indon.... :

patut ah features dorang cam melayu...rupanya memang melayu...

jawa ngan melayu lain ke....tapi most jawa kat IC dorang either tulis JAWA MALAY....atau JAWA jer...atau MALAY.. :

[shaz]

jawa ngan melayu lain ke....tapi most jawa kat IC dorang either tulis JAWA MALAY....atau JAWA jer...atau MALAY.. :

Kalau nak tengok dari asal-usul (the earliest prototype), malay and jawa are 2 different lots. Tapi sekarang dah so many inter-marriages and similar cultural practices among the ethnic groups, that melayu, jawa, boyan all become like the same race. Which is a good thing - bersatu kita teguh, bercerai kita roboh.

Some researchers and historians have even made references that the old malay archipelago could have stretch as far as Hawaii, near the US. Which would have made most of the present-day polynesians and islanders such as those from Guam, Tahiti, Hawaii all malay in origin and roots. Perhaps that explains why the polynesians look like malays.
History has also shown that the old malays in ancient times have trading contacts to places like Australia and New Zealand (remember, malays were known in history as expert sea-navigators, especially orang bugis). Thus another theory speculates that even the Maoris could possibly be malays in roots becos of similar features.   

And then there's also the red indians in North America. The tribes that live very far up north (near the north pole), many of them resemble malays too.

Some people describe malays as the brown race. But I think we are more appropiately known as the red race.

We just have to wait for some real expert malay historians to emerge one day, and uncover the real story of the diaspora of the malay race.

[cheguThamrin]

Jauh pelayaran sampai mencari asal usul org Melayu... padahal, CT rasakan, inti tulisan sebenar ini adalah sebagai cerminan si penulis terhadap Malaysian Idol dan Akademi Fantasia.

"Mana ada anak Melayu yang berjaya dalam bidang nyanyian diperingkat antarabangsa sehingga mereka terkenal seperti artis-artis dari "arat. Pernahkah kita mendengar jualan album artis-artis Melayu dijual jutaan keping di pasaran antarabangsa? "

Mungkin maksudnya, "...kenapa pasaran Barat, lagu-lagu Barat mudah dipengaruhi org2 kita dan bukan sebaliknya? Mengapakah genre-genre yang asing bagi kita, mudah diserap masuk, mungkin lebih sedap dan enak didengar, daripada lagu-lagu asli kita, ataupun sekurang-kurangnya, artis tempatan yang dapat menembusi pasaran antarabangsa sehingga dapat mempengaruhi pendengar2 Barat dengan identiti Melayu sendiri?"

Mungkin juga si penulis agak kecewa dengan sesetengah sikap masyarakatnya di negerinya yang terlalu mengagungkan bidang nyanyian sehingga ketinggalan dalam bidang pelajaran... yang semakin tahun lebih ramai anak bangsa lain yang berkelulusan Universiti daripada bangsa Melayu sendiri. Itulah kenyataan di negerinya sekarang... dan ia mungkin membimbangkan beliau...

[norm]

Dah dikatakan melayu ni penuh dgn jiwa seni, so pencapaiannya lebih ke arah tu... daripada segi intelektual, minda mereka tak brape minat.. tgk la kat suria, kecik2 dah perkenalkan idola xs.. :-x

[cheguThamrin]

Dah dikatakan melayu ni penuh dgn jiwa seni, so pencapaiannya lebih ke arah tu... daripada segi intelektual, minda mereka tak brape minat.. tgk la kat suria, kecik2 dah perkenalkan idola xs.. :-x

Salah ke?  :

[norm]

Hmm salah atau tidak., terpulanglah pd individu utk membuat penilaian. sekiranya anak2 cenderung pd bidang nyanyian drpd pelajaran, jgn pula salahkan si anak2 tu nanti...

[cheguThamrin]

Hmm salah atau tidak., terpulanglah pd individu utk membuat penilaian. sekiranya anak2 cenderung pd bidang nyanyian drpd pelajaran, jgn pula salahkan si anak2 tu nanti...

Apakah masyarakat kita lebih senang menyalahkan daripada memberikan galakan?  :

Apakah ia salah pada pendapat norm?

[norm]

Pada saya, tiada gunanya kita beri galakan pd anak2 kita ttg sesuatu yg tak beri manfaat. mungkin pengaruh barat sudah mula mengaburi mata kita sehingga kita pun confused mana itam, putih atau kelabu... just my POV...

[cheguThamrin]

Pada saya, tiada gunanya kita beri galakan pd anak2 kita ttg sesuatu yg tak beri manfaat. mungkin pengaruh barat sudah mula mengaburi mata kita sehingga kita pun confused mana itam, putih atau kelabu... just my POV...

Jadi tidak perlu diadakan pertandingan ujibakat di kalangan anak-anak kita langsung? 
...bagaimana pula dengan pertandingan qari / qariah?

[norm]

ada perbezaan besar antara menyanyi dan membaca ayat suci al quran... takkan tak dpt di lihat?

[cheguThamrin]

ada perbezaan besar antara menyanyi dan membaca ayat suci al quran... takkan tak dpt di lihat?

Jelas sekali, jadi pertandingan adubakat nyanyian tidak perlu diadakan langsung? Diharamkan terus?  :
Tutupkan sekali stesen radio Ria dan Warna?  :

[shaz]

Jadi tidak perlu diadakan pertandingan ujibakat di kalangan anak-anak kita langsung? 
...bagaimana pula dengan pertandingan qari / qariah?

Pertandingan qari/qariah pulak masuk cerita  . If we think about the purpose of why Al Quran is sent to the world, pertandingan qari/qariah seems irrelevant to our faith.

Anyway, I think the writer of the article presents a very one-sided, biased, myopic view of the malay race. He did not take into account the whole history of the malays, their contributions, their successes, their plights and progress, which are heaps. He decided on his own fancies to dwell ONLY on the negative aspects of the malays. Come on lah, setiap bangsa ada their plus and minus points. There is no one race that is perfect. Those very things that he accused the malays, lain bangsa are also guilty of them.

Malays loving their entertainment? Cina, India, mat salleh, arab, latin semua pun love their entertainment.

Melayu tak maju macam cina and india? Buka mata besar-besar, there are also a hell lot of cina dan india yang masih hidup merempat.

Melayu suka lepak kat shopping centre? You'll find all races there actually.

[cheguThamrin]

Malays loving their entertainment? Cina, India, mat salleh, arab, latin semua pun love their entertainment.

Melayu tak maju macam cina and india? Buka mata besar-besar, there are also a hell lot of cina dan india yang masih hidup merempat.

Melayu suka lepak kat shopping centre? You'll find all races there actually.

One difference that he might wanna bring up is that, Entertainment wise, we have yet to introduse our culture to the rest of the world, as how the Chinese with their Hong Kong movies to produce Bruce Lees, Jet Lis and Jackie Chan, while the Idians are famous with their Bollywood cinemas, and we know we dont need to mention about Hollywood anymore...

Melayu, pada pendapat penulis; BELUM cukup maju berbanding dengan bangsa lain. Hampir setiap negara ada Indian Corner, Chinatown etc... but can we find Geylang else where?

Budaya lepak is of course involving everyone else, since there's such shopping centers exist. Somehow he has this thought, based on what he had seen that, there are more of us Malays than other races. The Idians would open their mamak shop, patronised by the Malays, while the Chinese would have their pawnshops, also usually patronised by Malays...

Am not backing the writer, but trying to view it from his perspective...

[shaz]

Nak buat apa pulak bukak mini Geylang overseas when there is so few or hardly any malays in that area? Chinatown and Little India exist overseas becos there is many of their race there.

Entertainment  - malays can't go far overseas in entertainment or beauty pageants becos we can't do obscene love scene atau pakai baju sexy macam foreign chinese and indian movies. Terhad kepada agama. Puteri Gunung Ledang made it to Cannes - but tengoklah the kind of daring berkemban baju Tiara Jacquelina had to wear.

Even when Ashley Isham the malay boy made it big as a fashion designer overseas - he had to compromise on religion - and designed very sexy outfits.