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Dipetik dari sebuah blog -
BukHaIri World.........
- Ariezz - Kodiang, Kedah, Malaysia -

Melayu @ Me---layu

Monday, September 12, 2005
Melayu @ Me---layu
Melayu didodoikan kejayaan palsu


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Di Singapura, kami tidak mendewakan pemain-pemain bola.''Begitulah kata-kata Phillip Yeo, Ketua Agensi Penyelidikan Untuk Sains dan Teknologi Singapura. Saya yakin Singapura juga tidak mendewa-dewakan golongan artis seperti yang berlaku kepada kita di Malaysia.

Saya tidak pernah terbaca atau mendengar berita yang penyiar TV di sana menganjurkan banyak siri realiti TV yang tidak mendatangkan sebarang faedah jangka panjang untuk kemajuan negara kecil mereka.Tetapi berlainan pula dengan negara kita, itu yang lebih diutamakan sejak kebelakangan ini.

Jika beginilah sikap rakyat negara kita nampaknya kita akan terus menjadi sebuah negara yang terbelakang dalam segala bidang yang berfaedah untuk masa depan negara.

Di Singapura, idola mereka adalah orang terpelajar, bukan artis.Orang terpelajar dijadikan contoh kepada anak-anak muda Singapura untuk mengejar kemajuan dalam bidang sains dan teknologi.

Anak-anak mereka digalakkan mendapat pelajaran setinggi yang mungkin kerana mereka sedar tanpa generasi yang berpelajaran dan berpendidikan tinggi negara mereka akan ketinggalan. Singapura sedang menuju ke arah apa yang disebut knowledge economy (ekonomi ilmu pengetahuan) tetapi kita lebih kepada entertainment economy (ekonomi hiburan).

Artis-artis yang berjaya meraih `ijazah' dari Akademi Fantasia(AF) lebih diberikan tempat dalam liputan akhbar daripada kejayaan anak-anak Malaysia yang berjaya dalam bidang sains dan teknologi.

Kalau beginilah cara orang Melayu menguruskan anak bangsa mereka nampaknya peluang untuk menjana Towering Malays atau Melayu Unggul akan punah.

Mana ada anak Melayu yang berjaya dalam bidang nyanyian diperingkat antarabangsa sehingga mereka terkenal seperti artis-artis dari Barat. Pernahkah kita mendengar jualan album artis-artis Melayu dijual jutaan keping di pasaran antarabangsa?

Kalau setakat menyanyi di Royal Albert Hall sudah dianggap satu kejayaan besar bagi anak Melayu dan bukan meraih ijazah kelas pertama di universiti Cambridge atau Oxford, rosaklah anak Melayu.

Kaum Cina dan India mendahulukan kejayaan akademik daripada hiburan tetapi untuk anak-anak Melayu, ibu bapa mereka sanggup berkorban apa saja, bergolok bergadai asalkan anak mereka mendapat tempat dalam Malaysian Idol dan AF.

Mereka tidak sanggup berkorban atau bergolok bergadai untuk memastikan anak-anak mereka mendapat pendidikan yang terbaik.Sesungguhnya orang Melayu akan jadi bahan ketawa kaum lain pada suatu hari nanti.

Orang Melayu masih buta dengan agenda orang lain untuk menjatuhkan mereka.

Tulisan saya ini mungkin tidak akan menyenangkan orang yang tidak mengambil berat tentang arah tuju orang Melayu. Ia mungkin bagai cili yang terpepak atau pahit bagai hempedu tetapi seperti kata orang,yang pahit itulah ubat.

Malangnya orang Melayu suka digula-gulakan, dipuji berlebih-lebihan. Biar menang sorak kampung tergadai. Biar papa asalkan bergaya.

Sampai bila kita hendak dodoikan orang Melayu dan anak Melayu dengan kejayaan yang palsu. Kita mahukan durian tapi benih tomato yang kita tanam.

Di mana rasional dan logiknya? Begitu rendahkah daya fikir orangMelayu dan anak Melayu? Kalaulah pejuang kemerdekaan dari kalangan orang Melayu yang lalu masih hidup, mereka pasti akan menangis kerana kita telah gagal mendidik anak bangsa ke arah kemajuan yang dituntut oleh agama Islam.

Kita gagal mengisi kemerdekaan dengan anak-anak bangsa yang bijak berfikir dan bertindak demi kesinambungan kemegahan orang Melayu.

Mungkin Hang Tuah akan geleng kepala melihat orang Melayu hari ini menyalahgunakan kebebasan yang diperoleh. Mungkin Melayu tak hilang di dunia tetapi jika ada bangsa Melayu yang layu apalah gunanya.

Layu dengan lagu yang mendayu. Layu di pusat-pusat serenti. Layu di atas jalan raya yang serba moden. Layu di peringkat pengajian tinggi.


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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2006, 12:58:15 AM »

I do agree to some extent only. That its true orang melayu suka entertainment, berbual kosong (like we do on this board  ;D) and we have a greater fascination with our celebs and artistes than we do for the seriously intellectual. I even recall our moderator CheguThamrin mentioning in a thread to me to keep to the common everyday views, rather than something intellectual where forumers cannot relate. That comment didn't go down well with me, but we've patched our differences since then and all is well  Tongue ;D Tongue. I thought hard about it and I think CT is right to some large extent..cos its true...our malays do not want to even try to hold their own where intellect is concerned. They're happier and more comfortable babbling off about inane, safe, everyday matters like babies, relationships and jobs. They don't try to challenge their brain to think out of the box. Only in Sentuhan Rohani section where religion is concerned, we see forumers daring to give more intellectual weight to their thoughts.

Pitting ourselves on the yardstick with the Chinese and Indians is tough. Chinese and Indians happened to be 2 of the most progressive race in the world, the giant races. Even in US, Canada, Europe, the chinese and indians are respectable communities, where their kids do so well in school, the parents own businesses and they are taking over the top jobs in medicine , law, media etc. I attribute their wordly success to hardwork and sheer cunning. Its a common fact that if you want to get rich in business or climb the top jobs, you must possess a lot of drive and cunning...the ability to think fast, to be deceitful, to cheat...we know many indians and chinese possessed those qualities and thus they could progress as far as they do now.

Malays are more governed by the principle of religion...honesty, kejujuran, sifat syukur dan jangan tamak, jangan mengejar keduniaan, mencari akhirat...and with those principles obviously we won't get as economically far as our chinese and indians counterparts. Also, why do malay kids do so bad in maths? Becos maths is a subject that require your mind to unravel complexities quantitatively, to have the driven cunning to arrive at the numeric solution. And of cos that suits chinese and indian minds so well...and thats how they end up with so much quantity of money in their adult lives...thru years of excelling in maths where they hv the driven cunning to arrive at the figure monetary solution.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2006, 01:09:27 AM »

Simply, most of us like to take in simple things, and simplify matters, but we have yet to simplify the equation of life.

Simple things might be :
Kecil2 belajar sampai mana yang termampu > kerja > kahwin > keluarga > beranak > all over again

Simplfy matters :
Tak suka? > Angkat kaki / cerai / pukul bantai / merajuk / tukar kerja / skim cepat kaya / jenayah dan sewaktu dengannya.

Simplify the equation of life :
Makan Rehat Tidur  ;D

Anyway... CT shared the blogger's opinions. Generally, we've been the end user of technology, and perhaps the last to know about anything, thus perhaps also the last for any other race to realise our potential, but yet we'll always be the 1st to spread rumours about the Eatth's last days - "dah nak kiamat agaknya~" - more like chicken little?
**been waiting for at least the first reply, finally it came after the 20th viewer, and CT know somehow shaz would be the 1st to reply ;)
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2006, 01:27:48 AM »

i ever read this artical in papers somewhere..  :Smiley :Smiley

CT, so many S haha.. actually i'm waiting to read shaz posting ;D ;D

shaz, kalo dilihat.. org india dan cina.. dimana sajer baik asia or europe, ada chinatown dan little india mereka sendiri di kawasan tersebut ;D


Pitting ourselves on the yardstick with the Chinese and Indians is tough. Chinese and Indians happened to be 2 of the most progressive race in the world, the giant races. Even in US, Canada, Europe, the chinese and indians are respectable communities, where their kids do so well in school, the parents own businesses and they are taking over the top jobs in medicine , law, media etc. I attribute their wordly success to hardwork and sheer cunning. Its a common fact that if you want to get rich in business or climb the top jobs, you must possess a lot of drive and cunning...the ability to think fast, to be deceitful, to cheat...we know many indians and chinese possessed those qualities and thus they could progress as far as they do now.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2006, 01:31:35 AM »

shaz, kalo dilihat.. org india dan cina.. dimana sajer baik asia or europe, ada chinatown dan little india mereka sendiri di kawasan tersebut ;D


We simply love our archipelago so much that we wont dare to venture out. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2006, 02:55:34 AM »


CT, so many S haha.. actually i'm waiting to read shaz posting ;D ;D

shaz, kalo dilihat.. org india dan cina.. dimana sajer baik asia or europe, ada chinatown dan little india mereka sendiri di kawasan tersebut ;D


Actually its me who is waiting to read yours  ;D ;) ;D.

Yes, chinese and indians are everywhere. Its the sheer huge size of their population that put them at an advantage. On top of that, they're clannish by nature. Wherever they go, chinese like to live among themselves, do business with their own race, buy goods from their own people, visit their own chinese doctor, go holiday to china, employ their own people to work in their companies. Indians do the same with their race. Thus their wealth and prosperity circulate among themselves only. Dr Mahathir was so ironically right when he said in a speech, "We've lost Penang like we did Singapore." Becos once the chinese creep in and control the economy, there is little hope left for malays to regain much wealth for ourselves...the chinese are too clannish and too greedy to share with us. They only want to ensure the well-being of their people. Malays meanwhile do not have the strength of a huge population to do the same practice, and even with what we have, we are still divisive by ethnicity, with the arabs, indian muslims, javanese, boyanese all wanting to be known distinctly different from the malays.

We simply love our archipelago so much that we wont dare to venture out. ;)
 

Sifat orang melayu....tak mahu merempat kat negeri orang asing. Looking at old history, chinese, indians, lebanese, latinos, irish among some who came from their motherland kebanyakannya came out to migrate very broke, destitutes, refugees and search for a better life. Most of the chinese in singapore came from ancestors yang miskin-kerepot, cina-bukit toktok and they had jobs like coolies, tukang angkat najis, sapu sampah when they came out here dulu-dulu. Sekarang dah terpelajar dan kaya sikit nak tunjuk eksyen pada orang melayu. Seburuk-buruk dan miskin orang melayu, we don't have a history of mass migration yang kerja jadi hamba abdi atau tukang angkat najis pat negeri asing.  Tak pernah jadi refugees pun. We may have little in material wealth but we stilll keep our dignity.

Also, if you don't believe me, go ask your parents or grandparents...macam mana cina dulu-dulu kahwin? Most don't even get married. Tinggal dalam tongkang and breed children there. Sekarang they have some material success, they talk big about Shangri-la wedding lah, Vera Wang bridal gown lah, diamond tiara lah konon or whatever to imitate mat salleh lifestyle. Padahal asal keturunan mereka is so jijik, and they dare to badmouth orang melayu sekarang as bangsa yang tak maju! Pigilah!!!

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Sifat orang melayu....tak mahu merempat kat negeri orang asing. Looking at old history, chinese, indians, lebanese, latinos, irish among some who came from their motherland kebanyakannya came out to migrate very broke, destitutes, refugees and search for a better life. Most of the chinese in singapore came from ancestors yang miskin-kerepot, cina-bukit toktok and they had jobs like coolies, tukang angkat najis, sapu sampah when they came out here dulu-dulu. Sekarang dah terpelajar dan kaya sikit nak tunjuk eksyen pada orang melayu. Seburuk-buruk dan miskin orang melayu, we don't have a history of mass migration yang kerja jadi hamba abdi atau tukang angkat najis pat negeri asing.  Tak pernah jadi refugees pun. We may have little in material wealth but we stilll keep our dignity.
Also, if you don't believe me, go ask your parents or grandparents...macam mana cina dulu-dulu kahwin? Most don't even get married. Tinggal dalam tongkang and breed children there. Sekarang they have some material success, they talk big about Shangri-la wedding lah, Vera Wang bridal gown lah, diamond tiara lah konon or whatever to imitate mat salleh lifestyle. Padahal asal keturunan mereka is so jijik, and they dare to badmouth orang melayu sekarang as bangsa yang tak maju! Pigilah!!!



Maaf tumpang lalu..

ni soalan sahaje ye...the dignity that the malays have ada equivalent dgn ego tak?

Maksudnya, kalau konteks skrang k, antara cina dan melayu, org melayu lebih memilih dalam mencari pekerjaan.. ni kes2 benar yg Lynn tau dlm kenalan.. ada yg nak kerja baik tapi qualifications tidak mencukupi then tk mau kerja yg berat seperti cuci tandas dan sebagainya..dorang kata malu...as a result keluarga kelaparan..masih duduk di bawah ketiak ibu minta duit...dan sebagainya..

kalau lihat bangsa lain, majoriti tidak kisah apa pekerjaan dibuat semata utk menyara keluarga..ye tak?

btw, bangsa2 lain yg pandang rendah pada bangsa melayu tak sedar yg tanah dorang duduk skrang ni sebenarnya kepunyaan orang melayu...ive some pple said that' orang melayu ni mmg bodoh..tanah2 yg dimiliki dijual sewenang2 pada bangsa lain..' eeeee geramnyer hamba bila dgr gitu  Angry

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2006, 11:19:47 AM »

i cant agree more on that statement.. shall we say.. we rather dlm comfort zone?

They might lose more than just Penang at this rate..

Actually its me who is waiting to read yours  ;D ;) ;D.

Yes, chinese and indians are everywhere. Its the sheer huge size of their population that put them at an advantage. On top of that, they're clannish by nature. Wherever they go, chinese like to live among themselves, do business with their own race, buy goods from their own people, visit their own chinese doctor, go holiday to china, employ their own people to work in their companies. Indians do the same with their race. Thus their wealth and prosperity circulate among themselves only. Dr Mahathir was so ironically right when he said in a speech, "We've lost Penang like we did Singapore." Becos once the chinese creep in and control the economy, there is little hope left for malays to regain much wealth for ourselves...the chinese are too clannish and too greedy to share with us. They only want to ensure the well-being of their people. Malays meanwhile do not have the strength of a huge population to do the same practice, and even with what we have, we are still divisive by ethnicity, with the arabs, indian muslims, javanese, boyanese all wanting to be known distinctly different from the malays.

woo.. i like ur qoute.. teringat pasal samsui women..
 
Sifat orang melayu....tak mahu merempat kat negeri orang asing. Looking at old history, chinese, indians, lebanese, latinos, irish among some who came from their motherland kebanyakannya came out to migrate very broke, destitutes, refugees and search for a better life. Most of the chinese in singapore came from ancestors yang miskin-kerepot, cina-bukit toktok and they had jobs like coolies, tukang angkat najis, sapu sampah when they came out here dulu-dulu. Sekarang dah terpelajar dan kaya sikit nak tunjuk eksyen pada orang melayu. Seburuk-buruk dan miskin orang melayu, we don't have a history of mass migration yang kerja jadi hamba abdi atau tukang angkat najis pat negeri asing.  Tak pernah jadi refugees pun. We may have little in material wealth but we stilll keep our dignity.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2006, 12:49:51 PM »

why do we keep comparing ourselves to other races? can't we accept the fact that melayu is unique? the malay race is still new.
we don't have ancient civilisations panning from thousands of years like the chinese or indians. 
comparing the likes of confucius (551 BC), chandragupta (319 AD) to hang tuah (1400AD) is kinda unfair isn't it?  :Smiley

budaya melayu rich in budi bahasa, tradisi.. aren't u proud of it? do we hav to be so competitive and felt threatened whenever we see other races do something better than us?
when the rest of the world are caught in the whirlwind of technology and advancing forward, malays are more relaxed and accepting things the way it is. not all lah.. but majority will have that kinda mentality. we'll catch up.. but we will take our time to do it. hehehe..

we are different than chinese & indians.. do we hav to chuck aside our good upbringing (honesty, courtesy etc etc) and be like them? it seems that the article wanted us to do exactly that. isn't it better to live a better honest life, than live a life that's full of conceit, dishonesty...? wat kinda example will we be showing to our kids? that it's ok to lie and be unscrupulous in our business?

regarding too much emphasis on show biz, well.. IMHO, we need some entertainment in order to balance things out. we can't be churning out scholars all the time. look what happen in Singapore? too much focusing on studies have some bad effects as well.
n i think the article is a bit exagerating. there ARE malay students in those top universities overseas. the numbers are slowly rising.. like i said, we are catching up with the rest of the world.

pelan2 kayuh dok~..
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2006, 12:56:56 PM »

 u got another point there mademoiselle, ;D ;D more or less.. the guy saying malay over there banyak dilalaikan dgn fenomena idol or AF..  ;D ;D kami pun ada jugak.. cam  Tongue Tongue sibuk berforum ;D ;D bla bla bla..(de-stress?? ;D ;D)

demi masa.. kita dlm kerugian..
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2006, 01:14:45 PM »

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Di Singapura, idola mereka adalah orang terpelajar, bukan artis.Orang terpelajar dijadikan contoh kepada anak-anak muda Singapura untuk mengejar kemajuan dalam bidang sains dan teknologi.

obviously they never see how hard we cheered for Taufik.. LOL!..

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Mana ada anak Melayu yang berjaya dalam bidang nyanyian diperingkat antarabangsa sehingga mereka terkenal seperti artis-artis dari Barat. Pernahkah kita mendengar jualan album artis-artis Melayu dijual jutaan keping di pasaran antarabangsa?

abih mat salleh tak tau bahasa melayu.. hehe.. juz kidding..

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Kalau setakat menyanyi di Royal Albert Hall sudah dianggap satu kejayaan besar bagi anak Melayu dan bukan meraih ijazah kelas pertama di universiti Cambridge atau Oxford, rosaklah anak Melayu.

tak bangga ke nampak artist sendiri nyanyi kat negeri omputih? takkan asik nak perform kat tempat yang sama jer. lagipun, ada banyak lagi pelajar2 melayu yang sedang menempah nama di overseas unversiti.. cuma the news is not as hot as when si mawi tu cakap dia nak putus tunang..
i believe everyone play their own part. artists will do their part.. and the rest will do their own parts. don't tell me that every single malay nak kena ada ijazah baru bleh dianggap maju?

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Artis-artis yang berjaya meraih `ijazah' dari Akademi Fantasia(AF) lebih diberikan tempat dalam liputan akhbar daripada kejayaan anak-anak Malaysia yang berjaya dalam bidang sains dan teknologi.

like i said above, coverage are given.. it's just that the news are not as hot as which house Mawi bought for himself and how much he paid for it..

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Kaum Cina dan India mendahulukan kejayaan akademik daripada hiburan tetapi untuk anak-anak Melayu, ibu bapa mereka sanggup berkorban apa saja, bergolok bergadai asalkan anak mereka mendapat tempat dalam Malaysian Idol dan AF. Mereka tidak sanggup berkorban atau bergolok bergadai untuk memastikan anak-anak mereka mendapat pendidikan yang terbaik.Sesungguhnya orang Melayu akan jadi bahan ketawa kaum lain pada suatu hari nanti.

iyer ke? i pun pernah dengar makbapak bersusah payah berkerja and ada sampai gadai tanah utk antar anak pi university.. so exagerating..


tu ajer yang mampu i type sekarang.. nak pi lunch..
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2006, 01:48:53 PM »

Hehehe....I baca korang punya post pasal bangsa Melayu ni...kelakar la. Nora boleh ketawa sendiri pat ofis nie.  ;D ;D

Kita sepatutnya bangga sebagai anak Melayu, tak kira la Jawa ker, Boyan ker, Bugis ker, Melaka ker apa2 ker....yang penting, kita semua serumpun dan rumpunan itu yang dinamakan Melayu.

Jangan lupa juga tunggak budaya bangsa Melayu adalah Islam. Jadi memang dah dididik bangsa Melayu supaya hidup berlandaskan pada pegangan ugama Islam. Walaupun Islam mengalakkan umatnya supaya maju dalam segala bidang, namun ada batas2 hukum yang dah ditentukan untuk mencapai kejayaaan yang dikejar. Bangsa lain tak ada semua itu.

Bangsa Melayu & umat Islam secara amnya are progressive in our own ways. Kita diberi peluang untuk berjaya di dunia & di akhirat. Insya-Allah. Our goal & focus in life is to be successful in BOTH in this life and in the Afterlife. Apalah sangat yang nak dikejarkan kejayaan di dunia semata2. Kita ada 2 tanggungjawab untuk di dunia & diakhirat yang harus kita laksanakan semasa hayat kita di dunia ni. You cannot expect to excel in one and ignore the other. Jangan lupa.....bagi bangsa bukan Melayu/Islam, dunia adalah syurga mereka. :Smiley

We simply love our archipelago so much that we wont dare to venture out. ;)

I dun agree on this. You'll be surprised at the number of Malays abroad that I came across. Baik di UK, France, Holland, Australia, New Zealand, US etc etc. Cuma bangsa Melayu di perantauan ni low profile sket jika dibandingkan dengan bangsa2 pendatang yang lain.  ;D  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2006, 03:55:23 PM »

Jangan lupa juga tunggak budaya bangsa Melayu adalah Islam. Jadi memang dah dididik bangsa Melayu supaya hidup berlandaskan pada pegangan ugama Islam. Walaupun Islam mengalakkan umatnya supaya maju dalam segala bidang, namun ada batas2 hukum yang dah ditentukan untuk mencapai kejayaaan yang dikejar. Bangsa lain tak ada semua itu.

Bangsa Melayu & umat Islam secara amnya are progressive in our own ways. Kita diberi peluang untuk berjaya di dunia & di akhirat. Insya-Allah. Our goal & focus in life is to be successful in BOTH in this life and in the Afterlife. Apalah sangat yang nak dikejarkan kejayaan di dunia semata2. Kita ada 2 tanggungjawab untuk di dunia & diakhirat yang harus kita laksanakan semasa hayat kita di dunia ni. You cannot expect to excel in one and ignore the other. Jangan lupa.....bagi bangsa bukan Melayu/Islam, dunia adalah syurga mereka. :Smiley


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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2006, 05:12:51 PM »

i agree with dnora...

kerana dlm apa juga yg ingin kita lakukan, kita sebagai org melayu/jawa/boyan etc etc yg beragama islam, ada batasan2 yg harus diingat dan diikuti... cuma tak dinafikan yg kdg ni org2 kita senang contented dengan apa yang ada.
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2006, 06:03:19 PM »

i agree with dnora...

kerana dlm apa juga yg ingin kita lakukan, kita sebagai org melayu/jawa/boyan etc etc yg beragama islam, ada batasan2 yg harus diingat dan diikuti... cuma tak dinafikan yg kdg ni org2 kita senang contented dengan apa yang ada.

Kita ni cepat contented dengan apa yang ada sebab kita juga patut kejarkan kejayaan di akhirat. Sebab tuh apa2 yang Allah dah berikan rezeki untuk bahagian kita di dunia, kita harus bersyukur. Jangan tamak.Tak ada salahnya berusaha untuk meraih kejayaan di dunia. Tapi pastikan daya usaha kita untuk berjaya & menjadi kaya tuh dilakukan secara halal di sisi Islam. Not easy but it can be done. Heck some of the richest people on earth ARE Muslims. Tapi jangan lose focus on what we should be achieving in the Afterlife as well.  ;)

Ceh....macam real jer eh I 'bersyarah' hari nie. Hehehe  ;D Tongue Tongue
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